I keep seeing questions and FB comments about the word "siphoning" and I'm not sure that is the word that I would use. They describe siphoning as; a jar that has a much larger headspace that originally canned or the liquid appears in the water of the canner with residue on the lid, ring, and/or jar.
To better explain this phenomenon you have to realize what is happening in the canner. The process inside the canner is heating the recipe to the internal temperature of the canner (waterbath 212 degrees; pressure canner 240-250 degrees) and as a result the food will boil and expand. Air will escape around the two piece lid. The process does two things; 1) kills any microorganism that are in the jars contents 2) remove oxygen and help form a high vacuum in the jars. Good vacuums form tight seals which keep liquid in and air and microorganisms out. 1
The video below is my recent batch of beans just taken out of the canner demonstrating the contents are still boiling when they are removed from the canner.
Troubleshooting the result of "loss of liquid" or "excessive headspace" can be done during the process of filling the jars. Here are a few things to be mindful of;
To better explain this phenomenon you have to realize what is happening in the canner. The process inside the canner is heating the recipe to the internal temperature of the canner (waterbath 212 degrees; pressure canner 240-250 degrees) and as a result the food will boil and expand. Air will escape around the two piece lid. The process does two things; 1) kills any microorganism that are in the jars contents 2) remove oxygen and help form a high vacuum in the jars. Good vacuums form tight seals which keep liquid in and air and microorganisms out. 1
The video below is my recent batch of beans just taken out of the canner demonstrating the contents are still boiling when they are removed from the canner.
Troubleshooting the result of "loss of liquid" or "excessive headspace" can be done during the process of filling the jars. Here are a few things to be mindful of;
1) If you didn't measure the correct headspace the food will "boil over" in the canner. It will escape out the top of the jar and the end product will be short in the jar of either liquid or product.
2) If you did not remove the air bubbles before putting on the lid the results from the boiling canner will create action in the jar. The food will take up the air space not previously removed making your jars look like a boil over when in fact it didn't have enough liquid to start with.
2) If you did not remove the air bubbles before putting on the lid the results from the boiling canner will create action in the jar. The food will take up the air space not previously removed making your jars look like a boil over when in fact it didn't have enough liquid to start with.
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From the picture to the right as the jars cool the change in temperature causes the lid to pull down sealing the jar.
If you have excessive headspace and the jar doesn't seal the processing time may not have been sufficient to drive out the air. This jar must also find a home in the frig. But if the jars seal in either of these conditions they are shelf stable.
| Tomatoes I pressure canned in November 2010 still shelf stable! |
The last and most important procedure, to ensure that you will have an indication of a bad jar in the future, is to store all the jars without the rings on them. I know for many that is contradictory to what you know but there is a good reason to do so. I will use the examples from the jar to the left as my prime candidate.
Without a ring, the jar with excessive headspace, though it has properly sealed, may start to have growth of bacteria. The bacteria will cause; 1)pressure under the lid causing the lid to slide off or 2) the center of the lid will bulge or 3)when removing the lid to use the contents of the jar the lid will have no resistance to your fingers pulling it off. If you leave the ring on and if bacteria forms the ring will stop the lid from moving. Though the lid may not bulge, given time, it could reseal itself trapping the microorganism that may lead to e.coli and botulism.
Filling and doing the steps to process a perfect jar requires practice. You will continue to have some that don't come out quite right here and there, but don't give up. Some foods can be tricky because of their natural expansion such as dried beans and lentils.
Good canning recipes specify the headspace, but a general rule is use 1 inch for low acid foods (such as vegetables), 1/2 inch for fruits and pickling, and 1/4 inch for jams and jellies.
Additional reasons during the Pressure Canning process:
Here are some of the troubleshooting tips that I can give you about the loss of liquid in your jars while pressure canning:
Good canning recipes specify the headspace, but a general rule is use 1 inch for low acid foods (such as vegetables), 1/2 inch for fruits and pickling, and 1/4 inch for jams and jellies.
Additional reasons during the Pressure Canning process:
Here are some of the troubleshooting tips that I can give you about the loss of liquid in your jars while pressure canning:
1. Make sure that if you are doing beans or other foods that will absorb liquid that you account for expansion. You will want to fill your jars 1/2 to 3/4 of the way full with your recipe and complete up to the headspace with your hot liquid. The recipe will tell you how to fill. If not ask me!
2. Make sure to be good about the headspace. 1" means the space between the top of the jar to the start of the level of the food!
3. When putting on the rings make sure they are only finger tight. Cranking the rings on may cause undue pressure on the lids making it harder to release the air from the jar.
3. When putting on the rings make sure they are only finger tight. Cranking the rings on may cause undue pressure on the lids making it harder to release the air from the jar.
4. Make sure to start simmering the water in the bottom of the canner before loading the jars. This will help once the lid is on bring up the temperature in the canner.
5. Once the lid is on the canner, make sure to vent the canner for the full 10 minutes. The canner internal temperature is important in creating enough steam and heat and will also help in the liquid not boiling over.
5. Once the lid is on the canner, make sure to vent the canner for the full 10 minutes. The canner internal temperature is important in creating enough steam and heat and will also help in the liquid not boiling over.
6. Be diligent during processing to keep a "fairly" steady temperature under the canner to not process for long periods of time at excessive amount of pressure. That will cause overboiling in the jars for the additional pressure over time.
7. When you are done with processing make sure that you do not move the canner because shifting the canner may cause the liquid which is now up to the lid to spill out. Let the canner cool naturally. Do not force the issue by knocking or pushing the weight off of the vent to release the steam faster.
8. Don't let the jars sit in the canner beyond the time it takes the canner to cook. The internal temperature will take a while to cool which will allow your recipe to continue to cook and possible boil over. Take your lid off once the pressure gauge returns to zero or your lid lock goes down.
9. Once you have removed the lid let the jars sit in the canner for 10 minutes. This will allow the jar additional time to depressurize. I have seen jars siphon after the lid is off when taking them out right away so wait the 10 minutes before taking them out.
I know that it's a lot of things to remember but practice makes great jars and the loss of liquid can be avoided in most cases!
9. Once you have removed the lid let the jars sit in the canner for 10 minutes. This will allow the jar additional time to depressurize. I have seen jars siphon after the lid is off when taking them out right away so wait the 10 minutes before taking them out.
I know that it's a lot of things to remember but practice makes great jars and the loss of liquid can be avoided in most cases!
1. from the "Complete Guide to Home Canning," Agriculture Information Bulletin No. 539, USDA (Revised 2009).

13 comments:
Thank you for posting this! Very helpful.
Cindy, So all those jars I emailed you about are sealed. Which leads me to believe that they are shelf stable. The only one I am doubting myself on now is a strawberry jam jar that I thought I did correct headspace but may have not. I put that one in the fridge (I know my answer to my ? jars!) and will eat it this week. I only have had one jar not seal, and that was a jam I did last night. I found a store 30 minutes away that does carry the headspace measuring and will go Monday to get it. Thanks for all the information!
Question - I water bath canned whole tomatoes for the recommended amount of time (1 hr 25 min), and let them sit in the canner for five minutes after processing to drop temp. When I took them out, they were still boiling and some liquid boiled out. All but one still sealed. I think I had the head space correct. Should I have let them sit for ten minutes instead of five? (Ball Blue Book recommends five.)
Laurie the main thing is recommendation. Once you get a feel for the canner I have found that different people based on elevations and time in the canner find that 10 minutes is a perfect amount of time. I would try at 5 minutes and see if you have less of a loss. Most of the time since I am at sea level 10 minutes works better for me. Hope that helps.
What about potatoes? I am certain I've done everything to the letter, and the jars have sealed, but they will still look low on liquid. I am assuming the potatoes have absorbed a good deal of it. Any thoughts?
Annie that is exactly what happens. I tend to not fill the potatoes to the very top, about 3/4 full and use the hot liquid as a my headspace prescribes.
Thanks for the very helpful information. I canned green limas this year and they lost a lot of their water...
What a great post. I pressure canned beans this weekend and the beans soaked up so much of my liquid. But they are sealed really well and i believe the beans will be ok. Thank you for all you information it is so right on! xoxo Lani
I absolutely love your blog! So many tidbits & tricks.
I have a question for you. I made pineapple topping right at a month ago. I wiped down the jars and they looked beautiful and seemed to seal properly. I left the rings on as I always have (now I know better thanks to you!). I went to take the rings off everything today and all of the pineapple jars had sticky juice under the rings. They were obviously over filled when I looked at them. But all the seals seam fine, no bulging or popping, and do not come off without prying them open. Smells good, looks good. Toss or keep?
Thanks, I look forward to following you more and am about to make your celery soup recipe now! :)
Anna if the seal is good keep them. Watch that fill line the jars get so bubbly when we water bath them.
Anna
They are good to go. My advice in addition is to check them the next time you are in your pantry by checking the lids. If there is a problem as you know the lid will just come off easily.
You will know if there are bad because you will find mold. The fillings are sugar based and will grow mold which is your tell-tale sign!
Thank ya so much!
I have had siphoning problems with pressure canning for years, so much so that I dislike using the pressure canner. I used a canner with a gauge for a long time and then moved to an all-electric home. Adjusting the heat to maintain the proper pressure is impossible on an electric range so I bought a canner with a rocker gauge on it and then found out all I really needed to do was change out the gauge on my canner with a rocker gauge, which I could have ordered for many dollars less than I paid for my new canner. Doh!
I do like the rocker much better than the gauge, simply because it eliminates my having to stand over it the whole time to make sure pressure is stable. For years (I'm 66), I never knew there was anything but the gauge.
But here's my question. They really screwed up on the instructions. They say as soon as the rocker starts to rock, to turn the heat down to where it will only rock once every few minutes. But my rocker never rocks. It hisses. I've seen where a lot of people say this. So, then, would it be that the canner is supposed to HISS every few minutes? As I understand it, it doesn't hurt anything if it hisses constantly, as far as the product, you just use more power. I can't seem to find the "sweet spot" and I end up letting it hiss more than it probably should. But I wonder if this extra hissing is causing the siphoning? I just did some beets and they look sooooo awful. The water in the canner contained all the red and the beets have gone from red to pink. If I can't find the solution during this year when I'm having a good crop of beets, I guess I'll just freeze my beets from now on, or pickle them so I can use the water bath. The only thing is, I don't always want my beets pickled.
These are some good tips you have listed and I thank you for being more help than all those "institutes" are. I actually had my local extension agent tell me I could cool off my canner by running cold water over it, as her mother always did. Right then I knew I'd gone to the wrong place for advice there. I think one of my problems is that I don't always keep track of how long the steam escapes before I start the pressure building. I'll pay more attention to that.
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